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9/12/03

by David Engstrom

Power Mac Buyer's Guide

As you'll see in most of the test results below the 1.8 GHz G5 Tower bested the 1.6 GHz by about 13%. This mirrors the clock speed difference which is also just about 13%.

So from a performance standpoint does a 13% performance improvement merit a $400 price increase (20%)? Not in my book. But lets see what else you are getting if you opt for the 1.8 GHz:

80 more GB of Storage: Value $139
256 MB more RAM: Value $62
4 More RAM Slots: Value ... You Decide
Total: $201

Note: rob-ART of BareFeats also pointed out to us that the 1.8 has PCI-X slots running at up to 133MHz.
and the 1.6 has PCI slots running at 33MHz max

The 1.6 GHz model only come with 4 RAM slots while the 1.8 GHz machine has 8. The only reason I can see for Apple hobbling the 1.6 in this way is to make the 1.8 more appealing to those that might balk at the $400 price premium. I can't believe that it would cost much more to put 4 more RAM slots in the machine.

What machine would you buy?

Difference and similarities of each machine
 

Power Mac G5/1.6 GHz
Single Processor (#M9020LL/A)

Power Mac G5/1.8 GHz
Single Processor (#M9031LL/A)

Processors 1 x G5/1.6 GHz 1 x G5/1.8 GHz
L2 Cache 512K L2 @ 1.6 GHz 512K L2 @ 1.8 GHz
L3 Cache None None
Bus Speed 800 MHZ Frontside bus 900 MHZ Frontside bus
Memory

1.25 GB PC2700
333MHz DDR SDRAM

4 GB max

1.5 GB PC3200
400MHz DDR SDRAM

8 GB max

Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
64MB DDR SDRAM
AGP 8X Pro graphics slot
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
64MB DDR SDRAM
AGP 8X Pro graphics slot
Drive 80GB Serial ATA
7200 rpm
160GB Serial ATA
7200 rpm
CD Drive

SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)

Writes DVD-R at 4x
Reads DVDs at 8x
Writes CD-R at 16x
Writes CD-RW at 10x
Reads CDs at 32x

SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)

Writes DVD-R at 4x
Reads DVDs at 8x
Writes CD-R at 16x
Writes CD-RW at 10x
Reads CDs at 32x

PCI slots Three open full-length 33MHz, 64-bit PCI slots Three open full-length PCI-X slots: one 133MHz, 64-bit slot and two 100MHz, 64-bit slots
Operating System 10.2.7 10.2.7
Price $1,999 $2,399

"Real World" Tests


Basic Processor Function

CineBench 2003 Single CPU Test

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores 166 187

CINEBENCH 2003 consists of a series of tests. This one tests basic processing performance. As you can see from this processor test, and the one below, the 1.8 GHz machine, clocked just about 13% faster, turns in just about 13% better performance. You can run this test on your own machine by downloading the CineBench program. In this test we estimate that the Dual Processor G5 will fetch a score of 208 in the single processor mode and about 385 in the dual processor version of this test. This program has not yet been optimized for the G5 ... but they are working on it.

AltiVec Fractal (Carbon)

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 46.26 41.12

The Fractal program has been highly tuned to take advantage of the G4 and is precisely the type of work that the G4 was made for. It will also gobble up whatever processing capability is present. This is a good test for assessing the fundamental processing potential of each machine. The program has not yet been tailored to take advantage of the G5. If you would like to compare your machine to these results download the Fractal program and set the fractal to run at a maximum count of 65536

Desktop Tests    

Re-Boot Test

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 48.28 42.56

 

Copy 900 MB Folder Containing Thousands Of Files Of Various Sizes

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 146.64 141.98

The copy folder test not only stresses drive performance but also takes advantage of faster processing capability & caching schemes. Drive performance appears to be fairly evenly matched. Both machines have the same type of drive. The 1.8 GHz machine's is twice as big

Copy Single 1.2 GB File

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz Power Mac Dual G5/2.0 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 67.04 71.44

In the single file test the the processor & caching capability of the machine is less of a factor.

Import QuickTime DV Into iMovie

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 18.45 16.78

We imported a 175 MB DV file into iMovie 3

Burn CD

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 73.82 75.54

CD burning only uses a fraction of the processor to get the work done. Both machines have the same SuperDrive, so it is no surprise that they turn in essentially the same score

Let 1000 Windows Bloom

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 27.20 24.14

Let 1K Windows Bloom is a simple carbon application that opens and closes 1,000 windows. This gauges how fast screen redraws are taking place. Again we see a 13% Performance improvement. You can download the small program to run on your machine, and compare your scores to the ones here.

Launch Photoshop

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 13.15 13.50

We used a 21 MB files to open Photoshop 7 by dropping it on the Photoshop icon. A trial version of Photoshop 7 can be downloaded if you want to run your own test.

Finder File Search

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 36.11 31.31

Mac OS X's new File Search function relies on both processor and drive performance. In this test we are searching the file names of thousands of items, contained in two folders. About 30% of the processing potential of each machine was utilized during the test.


Large Document & Database Type Tests

Microsoft Office X Word Macro

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 59.44 53.40

A Macro (series of complex actions) was run in Microsoft's Word processing program on a 1.6 MB document. Word is part of Office X

Microsoft Office X Excel Macro

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 50.41 44.13

A Macro (series of complex actions) was run in Microsoft's Excel spreadsheet program, on a 8 MB file. Excel is part of Office X

AppleWorks Search And Replace Test

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 39.19 37.28

This test takes place in a 3 MB AppleWorks document. Machines with larger chip caches usually do better in this test. We expected to see a slightly higher gap between the two machines



Graphics Test

CineBench 2003 4D Test

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores 198 226

This part of the CineBench program relies on the CPU for graphics rendering

CineBench 2003 Software GL Test

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores 468 473

This part of the CineBench program relies on the software for graphics rendering


CineBench 2003 Hardware GL Test

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores 838 854

This part of the CineBench program relies on the graphics card for graphics rendering. Both machines have the same graphics card

Number Crunching & Rendering Tests

Photoshop 7 - BareFeat's Test

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 36.81 32.28

BareFeats Photoshop Test Suite - mimics a production type workflow in Photoshop. If you would like to run this test on your machine, and you don't have a copy of Photoshop, download it from Adobe (only advisable if you have a high-speed connection). Then download the action file and drop it on the Photoshop icon

Photoshop 7 - AltiVec Tests

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 41.71 37.03

Certain of the functions of Photoshop can take special performance advantage of the G4/G5 processors. This suite of filters was run on a 21 MB file. We did not use the G5 plug-in Adobe has developed but BareFeats tested with and without it and found very little difference in performance

Photoshop 7 - Normal Tests

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 68.20 59.71

The test above consists of Photoshop filters and functions that do not take any particular advantage of the G4/G5. Again we used the 21 MB file.

iMovie - Effect Render

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 96.11 84.74

In this test, an Aged Effect is run on a 175 MB DV file using iMovie 3.03, with the Effect left at its default setting This is a processor intensive task and will take good advantage of dual processors, if they are present


Encoding/Decoding Tests

QuickTime 6.3 Encode

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 23.38 20.20

A 5MB movie is converted to a QuickTime movie using default setting

QuickTime 6.3 Convert To DV Stream

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 112.37 99.04

The 5 MB Movie is converted to a DV Stream ready for import into iMovie. Default setting was used

iTunes 4.0.1 - MP3 Encode From CD

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 93.16 92.92

Both machines read CDs at 32X. Four songs totaling 16.5 minutes in length were converted in this test.

iDVD Import

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 39.09 36.29

175 MB DV file is imported into iDVD ready for burning to a DVD disk

StuffIt Expand

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 46.56 40.66

This is straight processor intensive work and does not take any advantage of the G4 processor... faster clock speed means faster performance. This test was performed on a 23 MB StuffIt file that contained thousands of individual files


Multitasking

iTunes MP3 Encode + AppleWorks Search & Replace + Finder Copy (Multitasking)

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 41.93 41.12

MP3 Encode, AppleWorks search & replace and folder copy are all carried out at the same time

QuickTime Encode + Fractal (Multitasking)

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 67.50 61.07

QuickTime Encode and Fractal render are both carried out at the same time.

QuickTime DV + iMovie Effect Render (Multitasking)

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 209.64 184.80

QuickTime DV Encode and iMovie Effect are performed at the same time

MP3 Encode + Photoshop Normal + Word Macro (Multitasking)

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - seconds 184.72 163.95

The MP3 Encode, Photoshop Normal and Word Macro tests are all run at the same time


Gaming

Giants Highest Frame Rates

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - frames per second 88 106

Giants Average Frame Rates

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - frames per second 34 38

Giants Lowest Frame Rates

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - frames per second 21 21.5

Both machines have the same graphics card, so it is the processor speed which is making the difference here. Our testing with the Giants game has shown that it responds well to faster processors. To obtain frame rates we take the character out for a jog around a predetermined route and measure the frame rates at the same intervals, within the circuit.

4x4 EVO 2 Average Frame Rates- High Quality Setting

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - frames per second 28 29

4x4 EVO 2 Average Frame Rates- Medium Quality Setting

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - frames per second 57 58

4x4 EVO 2 Average Frame Rates- Low Quality Setting

Machine Power Mac Single G5/1.6 GHz Power Mac Single G5/1.8 GHz
Absolute Scores - frames per second 61 60

4x4 EVO 2 is a very demanding game. It would appear that the graphics card is doing most of the work here, and again the machines have the same graphics card

OK you have seen the results .... What machine would you buy?

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